How Gold & Silver Are Going To React To Stock Market Weakness (Uncut) 02-24-2025
How Gold & Silver Are Going To React To Stock Market Weakness
Where are metals after last week’s stock dropping? The backdrop is we had a stock sell-off last week. And from there, we’ll take that stock sell-off and see what it implies for precious metals, gold and silver. Welcome to the Morning Markets and Metals with Vince Lancey, where each morning Vince brings you the financial and precious metals news to get you ready for your day.
And now, here’s Vince. Good morning, I’m Vince Lancey. Today’s market rundown, we’ll be discussing Michael Oliver’s latest report in context of the stock market, as you can see on your screen.
Ten-year yields are up one at $4.44. The dollar is $106.63. S&P 500 is up 31 handles, $60.44. The VIX is $17.64, down 58. Gold is $29.50, up 14. That’s on the highs, and it is new all-time highs.
We’ll be discussing that. Silver is $32.58, lagging but still positive, up 15, 16 cents. Copper is $4.53, up less than a penny.
WTI is $70.64, up four. Natural gas is $4.04, down 26. Wow.
Okay, Bitcoin is $95,775, up $4.60, $4.70, $4.80. Palladium, $9.59. Platinum, $9.70. Gold-silver ratio, steady at 90, steady as she goes there. Grains are all down, $10.39, $4.85, $5.94, down two, down three, down 8.7. We down the most in percentage terms, as well as in cents terms. So, homepage.
We’re moving rather quickly. Tips do not hedge inflation as advertised. That’s an analysis.
Lot of stuff coming out of Bloomberg’s terminal recently on precious metals, as well as the shortcomings of treasuries as a hedge for inflation. And that’s our coverage of one of those posts that we thought were actually very, was very, very good. It confirms what people think about treasuries.
I mean, tips. Breaking news, Percent says no to repricing gold, shrugs it off. People think he will reprice it higher.
He said it. He said he’s not. I’m assuming he’s not.
And I’m moving on. If he does reprice it higher, that’s fine. But, you know, we’ll talk about it.
We’ll talk about more of it. There’s a lot to talk about there. All right, here we go.
Where are metals after last week’s stock dropping? The backdrop is we had a stock sell-off last week. And from there, we’ll take that stock sell-off and see what it implies for precious metals, gold and silver. The concept is basically a stagflationary situation.
It’s not stagflation, but we could be moving towards that. So anyway, a month ago, Wall Street grasped the existential threat posed by China’s deep sea technology. We covered that.
Xerox covered it. And actually, Michael Hartnett covered it. China allegedly has cheaper, more efficient and a direct challenge to the AI-driven stock rally of the past two years.
Analysts that we just mentioned had discussed that. The concern escalated after a sequence of events, right? So we’ll pop this chart up for you while we’re doing that. The concern escalated after a sequence of events.
First, President Trump announced the Stargate initiative. Yay, we’re gonna spend $500 billion on AI infrastructure. Almost immediately thereafter, China’s deep sea kind of hit the scene in a bigger way, claiming not only superior performance, but also a fraction of the cost compared to what Silicon Valley and big tech were spending.
We broke down Michael Hartnett’s coverage of that in China deep sea turns Mag-7 into Lag-7. Where is that? There it is. Anyway, so there’s your backdrop.
So stocks cratered. Sorry to go back one more time. Stocks cratered when the deep sea news countered the bullish news on the Stargate investment.
And then we had a miracle. The market just kind of rallied. And then last week was a big whoops.
Now the market’s strong today. Let’s see what’s going on if the plunge protection team or the ESF or just the dip buyers are back. All right, which brings us rather quickly and hastily to stocks.
So that was the backdrop. Stocks might be headed face down in the mud. That should be good for gold, right? And it is.
Let’s see what Michael Oliver says. Gold versus the S&P 500 key shift underway. I’m paraphrasing him.
Oh, that’s silver. We’ll do that in a second. The relative performance of gold against the S&P 500 has been in focus since 2020.
Gold’s sharp rise in mid-2020 led to strong outperformance followed by a pullback and a consolidation phase from mid-2021 where gold traded in line with equities. Now there’s a chart of his. See if I can make that bigger.
Do I have that bigger? Yeah. Well, let’s just do it this way. All right.
A key level in the spread occurred December 2021, Michael Oliver says, when gold’s price relative to the S&P 500 hit 38.5%. That’s down here. As of now, gold has climbed to 49.1%, meaning gold’s price has risen 61.5% while the S&P 500 has gained 26% during this timeframe. Now, historically, this is, I think, the key new information here.
Historically, when this spread breaks higher, gold tends to drive the move rather than just weakness in stocks. That would indicate stagflation. The breakout level for this month is 48% or higher and gold is already at 49% with a week left in the trading period.
So acceleration of this breakout or momentum increasing using his measures says that you’re better off being long gold and short stocks. I don’t think he’s recommending that. I’m just paraphrasing the concept.
So this signals a clear shift in asset allocation, which is becoming more noticeable in market behavior. Like today, you can see it today. All right, moving on to silver.
For silver, which is not as easy because silver’s an economic metal. Even though it’s precious to us, it’s industrial to many. Hence, that’s the excuse to sell it every time the economy’s doing poorly.
And in the past, you remember back to 2022, that was a quite effective maneuver. The Fed’s gonna hike, the economy’s gonna slow, sell silver. And it drove it all the way down until India said no more.
Anyway, this time, he believes that silver will not only catch up but outperform. Now, let’s go through this. That’s my title, Second Time is the Charm.
Back in March 2024, again, paraphrasing him or maybe quoting him here, issued a blanket bull trend resumption signal for gold, silver, and the miners based on long-term metrics, including annual momentum. That’s back in March of 2024. And you remember, you may remember, silver started to rocket right after that.
The timing was very good. Nothing has changed the positive direction of this momentum situation since. So nothing has negated the momentum.
The issue now is it’s just been sideways. You follow me? The issue now is what price level do we need to see to signal another spike high or eruption, not merely just an orderly drift higher. So specifically, right, this is, I’m paraphrasing him, but we all feel this.
Every time silver or gold makes a new price high and wobbles off of it, there’s a chorus of doubter analysts who claim a top or a major correction. And yet, all we end up with are a couple months of layered overlapping, pullback, and then upside resumption. On that note, it’s called cap and trade.
It gets capped. Someone caps it, BIS, fund selling. But the trend is in place.
Again, it’s not the direction of the market that matters for the people who are managing our economy. It’s the speed of the direction that matters. So Michael’s momentum indicator is a 100-week moving average versus the weekly chart.
And it’s a rising weekly line by about 10 cents, 10 basis points silver. To just trade, I’m quoting him now, to just trade up to that horizontal line on momentum this week requires a trade up to 35.30. That’s a high number, okay? So I want you to think about this. If you see a marginal new high price above 35 in the coming weeks, coming weeks, not minutes, don’t assume it’s just another marginal new high in a trading range.
He’s saying the next time, the second time to 35 and change will be the beginning of the next momentum ignition higher, just like the one in March of 24. So to give you a picture of what that looks like, this is not his chart, but I’m trying to give you an idea. This is the 100-day moving average and this is the weekly silver chart, okay? Here’s the 100-day moving average.
Silver gets to here and that’s the high. Silver gets to here, that’s the current new high and that’s the high. Now, if you’re looking for a reference point to parallel his concept, it kind of goes like this.
When silver gets $8 away from the 100-day moving average, that’s too far, okay? So it pulls back. When silver gets $8 away from the moving average, that’s overbought, it pulls back. Now, however, the moving average is now creeping up significantly.
The pink line is my extrapolation, excuse my cough there. So the next time that silver gets to $35, it should go actually to 36 or 36.50 is my estimation. That’s before factoring in Michael’s comment or concept, which basically is not only will it make this tracking high that I’m showing you, you know, there it is.
Not only will it make this tracking high, not only will the tether pull it back from 36.50, well, like it pulls it back at 33 and 35 before, well, it should pull it back at 36.50 according to my calculations. But he’s saying another important level will be breached and that will make the tethering kind of untethered. And I can understand where he’s coming from on that.
If you look at it over here, it was tethered at say $3 above the moving average. Now it’s tethered at $8, right, $8. And the next momentum level, it’ll be tethered, I don’t know, $15, $20, this doubled, okay? So let’s assume that it doubles from eight to 16.
I just wanna share that with you. There’s more, we’re going to talk tomorrow about his comments on miners, which we didn’t get to today, but that’s it for now. News and analysis, again, a bunch of stuff.
We’ll actually be interviewing Michael Oliver next Sunday for the founders and releasing that for premium soon thereafter. We’ll be talking about everything as you can imagine, details as they come out. Analysis tips, we saw that.
Could Bassett just sell the gold? Yes, he could. Will he? Well, this is actually not a, we’re bullish article. This article here says he could just sell the gold.
Does he have to sell the gold? No, despite what you may have heard elsewhere. He can revalue the gold. And then after you revalue the gold, you put the credit on the treasury’s balance sheet and they throw it into the TGA, just like was done in 1973.
You don’t have to sell gold when you revalue it to get the money. All right, analyst says US Treasury has lost its gold. Again, another Bloomberg story, Hartnett cramming a Potomac River, very auspicious lack of mention of gold.
We’ve been spoiled by Michael Hartnett’s work. He’s been talking about gold a lot, but he does talk about everything else. So it’s hard to read this and I don’t want to make a read, but he is definitely talking about a stagflationary situation economically, right? Becoming economic singularity, that’s for founders.
And we’re gonna move on again. Geopolitics, geopolitically speaking, the meeting with Trump in Saudi Arabia with Russia puts the three biggest oil producers in the world in one place without Ukraine. Okay, so I’m looking at it like a minerals for oil deal.
If we were to make peace with Putin, if we were to make steps towards reconciliation, that would mean Saudi Arabia and Russia would want to pump more oil. He’s talking with OPEC Plus, right? And he wants them to pump more oil. They want to pump more oil.
That’s a win-win for everyone. And the question is, is that bearish for gold? Yeah, it’s supposed to be bearish for gold when peace breaks out. Should it be bearish for gold? Yeah, it should be bearish for gold, right? I mean, it went up when this all started.
Will it go back down afterwards? Yeah, it could, $100 maybe. But in the back of my mind, not a story, in the back of my mind, gold should not be this strong headed into that, okay? And so on my radar is, why are we repatriating all this gold if it’s going to sell off when we’re done? Now, we’re not just repatriating gold. There’s a lot more going on behind the scenes.
And just to throw this out there, it’s possible that we’re doing kind of an oil for gold revaluation. Simply put, Sadi, you guys are long gold, right? Yeah, Russia, you’re long gold, right? Okay, right. As long as the price of oil is low and stable, the price of gold can go up.
Go for it. You pump the oil and we won’t put our foot on gold’s throat anymore because we just got our gold back too. We want it to go up as well.
Let’s see. That’s my story. Charts, running late.
Charts, gold, new all-time high. There’s really nothing here. You’re bullish gold above 2907.
That’s it. You’re just bullish gold. There’s a magnet at 3000 and it’s starting to attract the market.
Silver, obviously silver suffers when gold goes up. Silver is economic. I don’t know what makes silver catch up to gold.
But I know when it happens, it’ll also tie in with miners. I’m long gold and I’m long miners right now. I’m short tech.
So that’s it. I’m Vince. Have a great day.
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