Central Banks Driving the World into Crisis (Uncut) 05-03-2025

Central Banks Driving the World into Crisis with G. Edward Griffin

It’s a group of private bankers in every country that decided to declare themselves to be central bankers, whatever that means. That means they’re not really bankers. That means they’re in the business of creating money in the name of the banks.

And it means that they’re a cartel too. But their structure, their minute structure can be different from country to country, as long as the fundamentals remain the same because of the traditions of the country. But when you finally get past the traditions and the decorations, you find always that it’s a group of private bankers that are controlling the supply of money for the nation.

And they do so without many limitations at all. They just do it because they have been given the power to do it by the people who voted for them and supported them as they voted for certain pieces of legislation because they believed what they were told. The people have been told that this is good for them.

This is what they’ve been waiting for. These are the people who have come to save them. This is going to solve their problems.

And of course, they never do solve the problems. They make them worse. But the cycle goes over and over and over again.

And it’s still going on at high speed today. On this episode of The Finance Podcast, I have the pleasure of welcoming on G. Edward Griffin. Edward is the author of The Creature from Jekyll Isle and a very well-known and famous book, which I think has traveled the world and has been an inspiration for a lot of people.

So, Edward, thanks so much for coming on the podcast today. Well, thank you. Thank you for that.

And thank you for inviting me. No problem. Looking forward to the conversation.

But yeah, as I was saying, it’s sort of the first time we’ve spoken. So I’m really interested in just, you know, maybe you can talk a little bit more about your book, just a very preliminary introduction for people who maybe haven’t had the chance to read it. Well, the book, I presume you mean The Creature from Jekyll Island? Yeah.

I’ve written a few of them, but The Creature from Jekyll Island is clearly the most well-known, the most popular book. I don’t remember exactly how many printings we’ve gone through, but I think it’s over 50. And we’re in about six or seven languages in different countries.

And I can tell you, Anthony, that when I wrote that book many, many moons ago, been updating it, of course, but I never dreamed that I had many more people other than my immediate family and friends who would be kind enough to want to buy the book. I never would have dreamed that it by now has reached well over a million people in paper versions of the book, and probably several times that number through audio versions. So it’s just, it’s mind blowing to me.

And I think it’s just because I accidentally, I accidentally tapped into a mainstream of hot lava, not too far beneath the ground. And it has, blades started to come up through the surface, and it scares the heck out of people when they see these economic eruptions going on. And they want to know, you know, what’s the answer? What do we do? How do we protect ourselves? So I think the success in marketing the book is not because the book is so great.

It’s just that the timing is right. I really honestly believe that. So the question, what is the book about? Well, it’s about the Federal Reserve, whatever that is.

When I started to write this thing or study for it, I had no idea what the Federal Reserve System was. I thought it was a government agency, like most people still do. And I can’t blame them for not knowing better because I didn’t know any better.

I went through the school system, I went through the public schools, and then I went through the University of Michigan. And I didn’t take any courses in banking and money, but I took courses in economics and history. And through things like that, you think we finally come around to the topic of what is our money system, since everything, almost everything we do involves some kind of a monetary exchange or value system, credits and debits, assets and liabilities.

And it involves almost every aspect of our lives. And we don’t even know what it is. So anyway, let me cut to the chase.

The book is about my discovery of what the Federal Reserve System really is. And my curiosity was aroused by this in the beginning because I was a struggling filmmaker with a rattling crusader gene. I had decided at an early age, right after I got married, I had myself a beautiful wife and a couple of little kids that I loved dearly, got to thinking about issues outside of my own skin, began to realize that things were not going well out there, if you are willing to look a little bit beneath the surface at least.

And it was, I felt a burning sensation. It was a startling thing for me because up until that time, I was pretty much like most young people. I was all about me, me, me.

How am I looking? How am I doing? Am I making enough money? What am I going to do on my next vacation? What’s my next hobby going to be? Who’s going to win the baseball game? Things like that. It was all materialistic, non subsequently important information. But all of a sudden my life turned and I decided that I had to do something to save the bloody planet.

As stupid as that may sound, that’s still my motive. That’s still my mission. So anyway, I quit my corporate job.

I was doing pretty well in the corporate world. I decided I was going to go off as a crusader rabbit. And so I quit my job.

And the only thing I knew how to do from my prior experience from what I’d studied in school was communications. And I’d worked in television and radio quite a bit as a young guy. So I thought, well, I will, I want to see if I can produce some very low budget films, documentary films, we call them.

In those days, they were more like little series of still pictures that you flash on the screen with a recorded soundtrack. Moaning over the loudspeaker system and very low budget stuff. You could do it yourself, practically for pennies.

And so I was producing those to try and put groceries on the table. And I decided that I wanted to come up with a documentary on inflation. I didn’t really understand inflation, but I thought that that’s a good topic.

Everybody is worried about inflation. But even in the day when we didn’t have very much of it, if we could have seen the kind of inflation that we have today, if we could have seen it back then, we would have probably been howling like cats with their tail in a rat trap or something. Anyway, I started to find out what the cause of inflation was.

And that led me, of course, eventually to this thing called the Federal Reserve System. And that’s what I learned then. Let’s get to the chase.

What is the book about? The book is about what I learned. And I learned, I got the curiosity going when I learned, first of all, that the Federal Reserve System was created under conditions of great secrecy. It was created under such tight conditions of confidentiality and security that I don’t think many wars of history were ever conceived, surprise attacks or anything like that, were ever conceived under conditions of greater secrecy.

I mean, it was all done by a meeting made up of seven of the most powerful bankers representing the big banking interests in the United States. This is back in 1910, this all happened. The representatives of the largest financial institutions in America came together and decided to have a secret meeting off, away from New York where all the banking centers were.

And they went to Jekyll Island in Georgia, which was a privately owned island in those days, owned by the most powerful people in the United States, the great financiers, the industrialists, some of the politicians and so forth. One of the most money were huddled in New York and they decided to get away from New York and they certainly did not want to go to Washington DC. They wanted to be in secret.

So they went to this private island called Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia. And it was owned by these wealthy families and dynasties. And they had a clubhouse, it’s still there by the way, been beautifully restored, called the Jekyll Island Clubhouse.

And that’s where they went. And they spent about 10 days there. This was in November of 1910.

And they hammered together all the nuts and bolts and the schedules. And what I discovered is, I figured that when people do something in secret, it’s because they have something to hide. So that aroused my curiosity.

And I said, well, what is it that they’re trying to hide? Well, it didn’t take long to figure it out. After you start reading the documents and the books and the reports referenced by these people or written by these people themselves, where they’re speaking very openly but privately about what they’re doing, it didn’t take very long to figure it out. So let’s cut to the chase.

What did they do? They created a banking cartel. It’s no different than a banana cartel or an oil cartel, or even a drug cartel for that matter. It just happens to be a banking cartel.

And a cartel, in case that word is a little bit strange to some of your folks out there, as it was to me at first, I always thought the cartel, well, that was a Mexican cartel, right? Well, yes, but it’s more than that. I discovered that it was at the turn of the century, precisely at this time, that the world, especially in America and the more advanced countries, Western Europe, the world was swinging away from private ownership, not private ownership, but from private operations, separate competitive enterprises competing against each other and joining together, not all in one corporation, but coming together as competitors and agreeing not to compete with each other. So they acted as essentially one industry or one enterprise in the fact that they all agreed to the prices and all divided up the products among them.

And they decided that as long as they didn’t have to compete, they could always make more profits and be less creative in the products they offer because they controlled both the supply and the demand. And that was a shocker to me. I realized that not only was this the trend at that time in history, conversion of independent, completely independent corporations or private family institutions competing with each other, almost the world was just rushing headlong and everywhere you look, joining together to get rid of competition.

And it was John D. Rockefeller the first who said, is quoted by several of his biographers, he said, quote, competition is a sin. Well, that was kind of the motto of creating these cartels. So I discovered that the Federal Reserve System was not a government agency.

In fact, it had very little to do with the government, except that the government took their secret document that they drafted on Jekyll Island, then they took it back to Washington, D.C., and they redecorated it. They took an eraser, this is imaginary now, but imagine taking the eraser and erasing from the top of the page where it said cartel agreement, which it didn’t, of course, but that’s what it was. Imagine erasing that and then writing on top of it, the Federal Reserve Act.

Basically, what they did was that they took a cartel agreement, they took it to Washington, D.C., and they sponsored it through a couple of their political influencers, and they made it into law. So now a private cartel agreement had the force and effect of law. And so you and I today are obliged to obey a private cartel agreement because the law requires us to do that.

And we think that, well, if we don’t do this, we go to prison, right? Well, only government can put you in prison. So therefore, this law is a government law, when in fact, it is not. This is a private law that was publicized and made official government policy by passing it into law.

Now, once you understand the basic root of this whole thing, now you can begin to understand why the Federal Reserve System never has met its proclaimed goals. Now, it’s proclaimed goals from the beginning, even to today, is how to stabilize the economy, how to make it best for the working man, for the average citizen, to protect his savings from being destroyed in the long term through inflation, for example. It’s all about how they’re going to protect us.

That’s what they say. But then you realize, well, wait a minute, they’re a cartel. What does the cartel do? All cartels, without exception, have one purpose, and only one purpose, and that is to advance the interests of the members of the cartel.

Now, what they say could be something entirely different, but what they do is always that. Otherwise, they have no justification for even existing. That is what I discovered, and that is what I wrote about in my book, is what happens when you allow a private cartel to parade as a government agency, to dictate all policies regarding money and interest, all economic issues are dictated by this hidden hand that’s pretending to be your government, and it’s not.

In fact, the Congress and the President, nobody can do anything at all about it according to the original act. They have no say, so they can bring them up and ask questions and scold them and all sorts, but they have no political power to do anything to affect the policies of the Federal Reserve System. Their only power is to abolish it.

If they don’t like it, they can abolish it. That’s the only power they have. They know that the banking fraternity, let’s call it, in the business of international banking, it’s really international, has so much power over the press, over the media, that they can make you or me look like an angel or a villain overnight just by the way they twist the news.

They know that it’s very difficult, if not impossible, to win an election if the media is against you, and if you go against the Federal Reserve System, you will have the media against you. This is part of the hidden control mechanism. So they may not like the Federal Reserve.

They may, like some of our more recent political figures, talk it down. Oh, we’ve got to do something about the Federal. That’s terrible, and they talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, but they don’t do, do, do, do, do because they’re afraid of this power that really controls them.

To put the final cap on the answer to your question, what I wrote about, what the book is all about, is that I discovered the most shocking thing I never dreamed as a young man could possibly be true, and that is instead of the Federal Government controlling the Federal Reserve System, the Federal Reserve System, it means the banks, control the government, and this is the core of most of our problems today. Yeah, thank you so much. You know, amazing to hear it coming from yourself and laying out your findings and your discovery process.

So is the whole goal of the Federal Reserve control, that that’s sort of the goal, that’s why they were created by these banks? True. It’s all controlled, and they used to talk about, oh, they still talk about, you know, helping, helping the citizens, preserving the money, the purchasing power of your dollar, you know, so you can, you can afford to enjoy life and not live in poverty, to raise the standard of living, to be fair and square, all these things. It’s just blah, blah, blah.

It’s to make you think that they’re good people. They’re crooks. Yeah, as you said, you know, they have these goals, they have these targets they’re trying to achieve, and there’s, there are many times in history where they have ever achieved it, so there must be something else.

You didn’t even have to know the history, like, like I’m talking about it. I spent a total of about seven years on this book, going from ground zero to, to having some knowledge enough to speak without too much concern about having made any huge mistakes. That’s a little story in itself, because I’m probably, objectively speaking, about the last person in the world that would be, offer himself as qualified to write a book on the Federal Reserve System, and international banking, and money systems, and all that.

I mean, what do I know about that? I didn’t study that in school. But that turned out, I think, to be an advantage somewhat, because I didn’t have to unlearn too much. I started at ground zero, instead of underground, because I’ve discovered, as I got into it, that the textbooks that they use in, in universities, and somewhat in the lowest levels, too, of the schools, they all, they present the image of the Federal Reserve in a very glorious and favorable way.

So you learn it, you learn it, if you study it in school, as being a very humanitarian-oriented institution. And the people are always talking about, oh, we’ve got to do something about the inflation, or we’ve got to do something about the slump, you know, in the economy. Oh, unemployment is too high.

Cost of living is too high. Now they’re talking about the cost of bread and butter being too high. And they just talk, talk, talk, talk.

They don’t do anything about it. They would really want to do something about preventing the rising costs of things. They would stop creating money like the madman, because the inflation is a short answer to that.

Inflation, inflation happens when the money supply expands faster than the good, the supply of goods and services. The supply and demand, you get more, more demand, you get more money, everybody’s got more money. It’s like playing a game of Monopoly.

And all of a sudden, somebody brings in another board and says, look, we found some more money, and they distribute it among you. Well, the game doesn’t really change, except that the prices of Wall Street goes up and the prices of Marvin Gardens goes up, because everybody’s got more money, which means more demand. But the supply, the number of Marvin’s Gardens is still the same.

So that’s the cause of inflation. Any high school or grade school child could understand supply and demand. Anyway, that’s another story.

You can get, you can get off track and get very outrageous about, outraged about this whole thing, because it is a crime. These people pretend that they’re, you know, wise people, very honorable, and they want to do the right thing. And they’re con artists.

They’re very good con artists. And I’ve often said, you know, I’ve never met a con artist that I didn’t trust. So that’s the problem we’re facing in politics today.

There’s an awful lot of people we trust, and we shouldn’t. Yeah, that’s a good, that’s a great point. And as you’re saying, it’s one of those things that I just, I just think if I think about, you know, the Fed, it’s, it’s led to this massive concentration of wealth.

And I think that’s, that’s the challenge as well. It’s something that you’ve talked about. It’s sort of taken away from the average person.

And this money printing, where is it all gone? It’s gone to the top 10%, this massive concentration. So it seems to have led to the disparities we’re seeing in society. Yes, well, the kind of weird thing about our conversation on this is that all of this started where you are, it all started with the Bank of England.

That was the pattern that the, the American bankers deliberately chose to imitate was what the structure, excuse me, what the structure was of the Bank of England. And it’s not not an awful lot different than in America, except the decorations around it. It’s a group of private bankers in every country that decided to declare themselves to be central bankers, whatever that means.

That means they’re not really bankers. That means they’re in the business of creating money in the name of the banks. And it means that they’re a cartel.

But their structure, their minute structure can be different from country to country, as long as the fundamentals remain the same, because of the traditions of the country. But when you finally get past the traditions and the decorations, you find always that it’s a group of private bankers that are controlling the supply of money for the nation. And they do so without many limitations at all.

They just do it because they have been given the power to do it by the people who voted for them and, and supported them as they voted for certain pieces of legislation, because they believed what they were told. The people have been told that this is good for them. This is what they’ve been waiting for.

These are the people who have come to save them. This is going to solve their problems. And of course, they never do solve the problems.

They make them worse. But the cycle goes over and over and over again. And it’s still going on at high speed today.

Yes. Do you do you think this trajectory is inevitable? That it’s just going to keep getting worse and worse? Or do you think there could be a way out of? No, I definitely do not think it’s inevitable. I’m not that kind of a thinker.

I’m not stupid. I hope. I may be dumb, but I’m not stupid.

I know that there are human beings doing this. And they’re, they’re not too many of them. They’re in high positions.

And they’re kind of clustered together like birds of a feather, you know, they know who each other are. They’re not all one race, for example, a lot of people say, well, those are the Jews that are doing this, because banking was started by by Jews, and most of the important banks are run by Jews. Well, this is an observable history, fact by historical fact, but that doesn’t mean I mean, it’s not the Jews, it’s not, it’s not the Italians, it’s not the Catholics, it’s not the whites.

It’s not the blacks. It’s no particular genetic or bloodline, or social, social might be more true. But these, these are birds of a feather that flock together.

And they all think alike, and they all practice and support the principle of collectivism in government. Collectivism in government is what we’re really facing as the mechanism by which they can get away with this. If it weren’t for the acceptance of this thing called collectivism, as a good and wonderful thing, when none of these are very few of these things could even happen, because they all require huge amounts of money.

That’s how they get by with it, they can buy up people. There’s very few people that can’t be bought up directly or indirectly by money, even the good people. Because I’ll give you an example.

Let’s say you’re, you’re a good congressman, or a good MP, or you’re a good representative in your government, and you’re trying to do everything that’s the right thing. And you’re up against this huge criminal empire posing as your honorable governments or your bankers or whatever they’re posing to be. And, and you’re starting to tell the truth, and you’re gaining some, some momentum.

And they come to you and say, you’ve got to stop if you value your position, and your reputation. And you say, well, I don’t care about my position, my reputation. I’m a man of principle.

Well, you still got to stop, even though you’re a man of principle. Because if you don’t, you’re going to miss your family. It would be just a shame if something were to happen to them.

And now you’re listening. Even though you’re a man of great principle, you’re listening. So then the people who arranged for that assassination, do that because they have a lot of money.

They can hire assassins and pay big prices to, to assassins. They don’t come cheap. They come expensive, but they’re very good at what they do.

And when you have an unlimited amount of supply of money, you can hire assassins, you can hold out carrots and sticks to people. You can give people guarantee of a lifetime job where they don’t even have to go to work. They can just punch in now and then, and pretend to be a member of a law firm, for example.

They can have a desk and they can have a chauffeur. And as long as they just do what they’re told not to do, and I mean, as long as they don’t do what they’re told not to do, and play the game, and they can give speeches, and they can condemn you and all that. They can condemn the bad guys, as long as they don’t do anything about it, then they can live very high on the hog.

You know, people will fall for this if the price is high enough. So this is, this is a reality. And I, perhaps this isn’t where you intended to go with this conversation, but I think it’s important to know that the people of the world can change this, but first they have to understand what the rules are on the game.

And the rules are that institutions, as they get larger and larger, become magnets to the predator class. By that I mean, any institution that has access to a huge amount of money, and a huge amount of influence over public opinion and activities of human beings, that is a magnet that attracts the predator class. All the crooks in the world would love to have a high position in those institutions, because they can commit their crimes and, and look like they’re being good guys.

And if anybody wants to blow the whistle on them, they have the power to put those people, the whistleblowers, into prison, you see. So once you understand that, then it becomes sensible to realize how wise Thomas Jefferson was. Now, he’s one of our national heroes, as you know, but he’s, I think everybody around the world could appreciate the wisdom of Thomas Jefferson.

And, and the illustration, I think, will make this point clear. It’s known because there’s a copy of a handwritten exchange of letters between Jefferson and a friend of his, a doctor friend of his, shortly after the American Constitution was finalized and, and voted into existence. And he gets this letter from the doctor.

The doctor said, Mr. Jefferson, now that we have this republic, and I think he used the word republic correctly in this case, how can we be sure that now we have only good men in office? Okay, there’s the question. And Jefferson’s response ought to be on everybody’s bathroom mirror. He said, let us speak not of good men in office.

Rather, let us bind men down, all men down, with the chains of the Constitution. Put limitations on it. Tell them they cannot do this.

Now, there you have the secret, you see. Now, in the modern vernacular, if we were to quote Thomas Jefferson, he would say, good men in office? Huh? Are you kidding? Because everybody knows that political office in particular is an attraction to, to crooks. And you can’t, you just expect politicians to lie to you.

You don’t think they’re a good politician. If they don’t, it’s expected that comes with the territory. And when you can accept lying on the part of your elected representatives, you say, that’s just normal.

That’s okay. You’ve lost the war for liberty and truth and honesty and all this. You’ve lost the war.

You’ve got to stand on principles. And so you’ve got to make sure that your system of government, as we like to call it, the state, is drafted in such a way that it makes it very explicit, not so much what government or what the officials of government can do, but very explicit about what they cannot do. It’s more important to be clear on what they cannot do.

And that way, of course, our 10 amendments to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, those are things that thou shalt not, like, like the 10 commandments. It’s a Congress shall pass no law respecting the right of peaceful assembly, right to bear arms, freedom of speech, and so forth. This wasn’t a grant of power to government.

This was a putting the chains of the Constitution on government. And so therein lies the secret and the answer to your question. Can we get this, actually change this? And the answer is yes.

But first comes an understanding, it must come first of the populations of the world, that you cannot trust any institution that has a lot of power and influence over people. You cannot just walk away and trust it to work by itself. You have to watch it like a dog, like a watchdog, because you know for certain that in you know, in advance, that many people inside that institution will be working against your interests, regardless of what they say they’re doing.

Yeah, so many amazing points that Edward, thanks so much for coming on the podcast, they have touched on so much as I was saying, um, but yeah, my last question is, what is one message you want people to take away? Is it what you just said? Is there something else? I think that’s, I think that’s my message. And I’ll just go one step further. And to amplify on that message, I’ll be right back.

I’m reaching for a booklet here. And here, I’ve talked about collectivism. But there’s an opposite to collectivism.

If collectivism is what we do not want, then what’s the opposite? It’s called individualism. And herein lies another of the greatest challenges to recovering our world, making our world safe again, from tyranny, is that we’ve got to understand these words they throw at us, that tend to confuse us, and we must stop using them. For example, what’s the difference between the right and the left wing in politics? Can anybody explain that? Well, not really.

I mean, they’ll explain it, but nobody agrees with it. You see, they got a different definition. I say that the right wing and the left wing are merely two wings on the same bird called collectivism.

What is the left wing? Well, I studied this. I really became a student of communism back in the early 60s. I hung out in the communist bookstore.

I read all their stuff. And to make a long story short, you know, you go through Karl Marx, Das Kapital, and the Communist Manifesto. Then you go through Vladimir Ilyich Lenin’s works, the collective work of Lenin.

That’s where you learn really what communism is all about. And I made a list of all the things that Lenin listed as the rules of communism. And don’t forget, Lenin was the originator of the Communist Party.

And it can be summarized with this statement. He said, comrades, if we go into a country that we want to conquer from within, not from, not invasion, but from inside, using the citizens of that country alone, how do we do it? Do we go in and say, we are communists, and we want to change the rules in your country, change your traditions, your legal system, your heritage, all the things, your language, your religions, everything? Is that what we do? No, don’t be stupid comrades. He said, we tell them what they want to hear.

And they will like us, they will support us, they will vote for us, and we can come to power. And he would say that over and over again. Coming to power, comrades, is our goal, not to win debates, or to make sense.

Our goal is to come to power. And if we have to do that by lying, cheating, stealing, murdering, that is how we come to power. Because once we are in power, and if anybody disagrees with us, then we can shoot them.

This is Lenin. And anyway, I could go on and on. It’s one of my favorite topics.

I have to cut it short. So I made a list at that time of all the things that Lenin, in particular, stood for, and called communism. I thought, well, let’s see, the communists are on the left, right? So who’s the opposite of communism? Well, it’s the right, the right wing.

Well, what’s over there? Well, that’s Nazism, fascism. I mean, that’s the opposite of communism, right? Well, of course, of course it is, they say. Look, they fight a war.

They fought a war. They killed hundreds of thousands of each other, maybe millions. Obviously, there are opposites.

And then I discovered, no, there weren’t opposites at all. I bought a copy of Mein Kampf, and a few of the treatises, not many of them written by Mussolini and other Nazis and fascists out there. And I made the same list of what they believed in, and blow me down if they weren’t exactly the same.

I’m here to tell you the principles. There is absolutely zero difference between communism and fascism, or communism and Nazism. And remember, Nazi is the German abbreviation for National Socialist Party.

The Nazis were socialists, not Nazis. They said, we Nazis are socialists, the same as the communists. That’s just one example.

You take all these things, the main mantra between all of these political spectrums is this one. The group is more important than the individual. And the individual must be sacrificed, if necessary, for the greater good of the greater number.

So that’s the mantra of collectivism. And I found seven, eight, nine different variants of that and implementations of that. And I made a list of them.

But that’s the underlying philosophy behind them all. And you find that in Nazism, you find fascism, socialism, all of these isms that pretend to be something other than what they are. They put a new name on it.

And I’m here to tell you, I know a lot of Republicans and a lot of Democrats. In fact, most of them believe that what I just said a moment ago is true. Almost everybody on this bloody planet thinks that the idea that the greater good of the greater number is a good philosophical foundation.

And it’s the beginning of all evil. Because all you have to do after you commit a crime is say, well, we did it, we did it for your own best interest, you know. Lenin himself said, look, if you’re going to make an omelet, you have to crack some eggs.

Lenin also said, promises are like pie crusts, made to be broken. Okay, you get the idea? You can’t just go on the basis of right wing, left wing, conservative. What does conservative mean, as opposed to liberal? Who really can spot the difference by how they vote in Congress? Conservatives and so called liberals, they vote for the same things.

They say they’re all against war when they’re campaigning. But once they’re in office, they vote for war, don’t they? They’re all against inflation and big government spending. But once they’re in office, they vote for bigger government spending, don’t they? On and on, you have to realize that words are a weapon of war.

And the world is falling victim to those weapons. The bottom line is when you come to the end of all of this, there are only two ideas in the Western world that depict a serious description of opposites in political viewpoints. And that’s collectivism on the one hand, and individualism on the other hand.

Now, I could talk for an hour on that, but that would be a big mistake on many levels. But if anybody is interested in this issue, I prepared this little booklet, a report called The Chasm. And it’s free if you would like to read it.

I urge you to, because it took me years to put, to discover these ideas. Very little of this is original with me. I just discovered it here and there in some of the ancient writings, and some of the new writings as well.

It comes from everywhere. I didn’t invent any of this. There’s plenty actually going way, way, way back to even Plato.

So it’s all here. And if you want to know more about it, just go online. It’s a free download.

And the booklet is called The Chasm, Collectivism versus Individualism. There’s a subtitle, which is the issue behind all issues. So you get it simply by going to the internet and typing in chasm, C-H-A-S-M.

That means the big division, big divide, big crack. And so chasm.realityzone.com. So that’s chasm.realityzone.com. And you can download this booklet for free. And I hope you enjoy it.

And you’ll understand what the real battle is that is raging around us today. So that’s my final thought. And thank you for taking the time to listen to me.

Yeah, Edward, thank you so much. I’ll definitely put that in the description below. So if anyone wants to access it, they can look down there.

But yeah, thanks so much for coming on. All right. Thank you.

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